The Meme Grinder #4.


In general I believe people do instinctively know about God, or a god’s existence (I think Christianity get this right, as Paul mentions in Rom. 1:20). I think this would best explain why 84% of people in the world believe in a god (1) while much of the other 16% are undecided. Whether we like it or not, the subject of a god’s existence is perhaps the most crucial existential question ever facing humanity. Thousands and thousands of years of human existence suggests this to be the case, and even in our advanced age many maintain that modern developments in scientific fields only further supports their faith in a god. In truth, God seekers are by no means diminishing, in fact religion is growing worldwide (2) while atheism is set to drop to 1.8% (from 4.5% in 1970) by the year 2020 (3).

However, I think Comfort gets it wrong when he says “atheists hate God because he does exist.” I am absolutely certain that many atheists turn their backs on a god, especially the Christian God, because they find him intolerable (as portrayed in the Bible) and/or don’t wish to live lives that are subject to him (or anyone). Or as former insolent New Atheist Christopher Hitchens calls God a “Celestial Dictator.”

Nevertheless, it is illogical for Comfort to conclude that God exists because atheists hate him. For example, I could hate unicorns because an evil unicorn once killed my favourite character in a video game or in a novel (lame example, but it suffices). All of a sudden I find myself hating unicorns in general when they appear in future novels/games/conversations even though I know that they don’t exist. Therefore, Comfort’s statement that “It is impossible to hate something that doesn’t exist” is almost certainly false as I see it. Likewise many atheists may “hate” the Christian conception of God because of the acts done in his name in the Old Testament and/or his wrathful nature. Other atheists, or non-believers in general, may dislike the Christian conception of God because they have a false idea about him, and this is often because of exposure to fundamentalist, intolerant Christians. But either way, just because the atheist hates the biblical God it does not give Comfort warrant to conclude that the Christian God exists.


1) The conclusion to Comfort’s statement does not follow, and 2) it is possible to hate something that doesn’t exist, therefore this is just pointless Christian propaganda. Christians should avoid this. Throw it in the meme-grinder.


1) Harper, J. 2012. 84 percent of the world population has faith; a third are Christian. Available:

2) Bryner, J. 2015. World Will Get More Religious by 2050. Available: htt

3) Center for the Study of Global Christianity. 2013. Christianity in its Global Context, 1970–2020. Available:


13 responses to “The Meme Grinder #4.

  1. Good article. I appreciate his dedication, but Comfort is something of an embarrassment to Christian apologetics. Much of the information he presents may win over an uncritical crowd, but it just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

      • I could say the same about atheists – much of the information they present may win over an uncritical crowd, but it just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

        • With no intention of starting an argument, I’ll think you’ll find that athiests do not hate God. If anything, they hate all the death and destruction that people carry out in the name of religion, religion that worships ‘God’. When millions of people are killed in the name of ‘God’ it’s hard not to feel some distaste for the organisations carrying out the killing. God, rather than the specific religion (Though there are very few who have not, at some point, commited some atrocity or another) is an easy catch all word.

          • Fair enough, thank you for the comment.
            Many atheists do seem to hate God (meaning that they have some emotional connection), although others don’t. I don’t deny that many atheist simply don’t believe in God.

            I would agree with you that I also hate all the death and destruction done in religions name. However, I think that you grossly over inflate the number (you say “millions”). A religious person could easily turn that around and accuse atheists of mass murder.

          • So what you are saying is that you do not hate God as such (even though you do not believe that He exists) but you do hate all the so-called “religions” that abuse, and often fight in, His name – and i would entirely agree with you on that point. However, to judge God purely on the actions of his fanatical or fervent followers does not have any bearing whatsoever on His actual existence or His purpose for mankind. Proof of God’s existence is obvious to any rational, logical and thinking person and you do not have to be a member of any religion to acknowledge that fact.

          • I think that this overlooks the massive preponderance of good and saving of lives that has been done in the name of Jesus Christ. These actions of self-sacrificial love, whilst not noticed, occur constantly, and have as long as people have had their hearts changed by faith. These acts, large and small, just do not make the history books like the bad news does. I’d say that that 99.9% of the actions of true Christians (not those in name only) has been unmitigated good and far outweighs the evil that is done in the name of Christianity.
            On the other hand, mass murder, genocide, death camps, torture, and incomprehensible depths of mental and physical disfigurement have been done solely in the name of hatred of Christianity. Atheism is many magnitudes worse in the the amount of suffering it has inflicted throughout human history. This is incontrovertible by anyone who studies history..

  2. James,

    For what its worth, I believe Ray is not far off the mark here, although in the arena of debate it becomes difficult to defend due to spiritual blindness of the atheist. There is a possibility that atheists dont rationally understand why they hate God so much. Perhaps God stands in opposition and challenges the god of their affections spoken of in Romans 1 and they lothe him for it. The word says man cannot serve two masters, and that he will end up hating one or the other.

    I believe this scripture helps support Ray’s. Assertion.

    John 15:18-25 NASB

    “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know the One who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates Me hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have both seen and hated Me and My Father as well. But they have done this to fulfill the word that is written in their Law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.’

    I enjoy the posts on the illogical atheist and applaud your team for raising a standard against the works of the enemy.

    In Christ,

  3. Ray Comfort’s conclusion is dead right. God exists, and deep down atheists know it and they don’t like it – that’s why they hate Him.

    • I know no such thing, I’m afraid. Deeply, shallowly, that knowledge does not exist. Also, the assumption that all athiests have some hatred for a being that they do not consider to exist is nonsense. It’s like me saying that all people with faith are violent lunatics – because there are some.

      • In reply to Steph’s last comment, I’d like to propose that he does know, at some perhaps deep subconscious level, that God does, in fact, exist.
        I’ll take a quote from James Bishop second post in this series….”Thirdly, assuming Wilson is a nonbeliever, I’d like to ask him how he explains his set of miracles: 1) The beginning of a universe from nothing. 2) Getting conscious life from inorganic materials. 3) Getting order from chaos. 4) Getting the immaterial from physical matter. 5) I’d also like to ask if he has a better historical explanation that explains the minimal facts to Jesus’ resurrection. Probably not. However, who does Wilson appeal to in order to explain his miracles? On my worldview God exists, but what about Wilson’s worldview?”
        I think that it’s probable that everyone cannot help but have an idea that God exists, just from the everyday observation of what is. God gave us a rational faculty, so it seems impossible not to have come to some basic idea of God just from simply being alive and using that faculty, based on how we process answers to the set of miracles that James outlines (there are many, many more – see J.P Moreland, Doug Groothius, Tom Morris et al).
        I believe that we all come to know God exists at a very young age, unless conditioned by the overt atheism of parents, which can quickly stuff natural logical thought. After that, the culture, friends, etc. can work quite effectively in further submerging basic, natural belief in God by incessant layers of atheistic propaganda. Self-brainwashing can also go a long way in burying natural belief in God. It’s very sad, and can be very difficult to retrieve and free the mind that is that confined and limited, but the Holy Spirit works astonishing things.

  4. How is it possible to hate something that you don’t believe in? Stop using lies in your preaching.

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